Hi all, wondering if someone can enlighten me on this question?
When the wave is in the particle and the particle in the wave what does it create??
Does that make a third force?
Blessings and thanks xxxxxx
When the wave is in the particle and the particle in the wave what does it create??
Does that make a third force?
Blessings and thanks xxxxxx
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Re: Particle and wave
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 11:49 PMalways the way :)
thank you xxx
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Re: Particle and wave
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 9:58 AMWendy,
In the sub-atomic world, particles can act like waves and waves can act like particles.
This nature of that world is not a force or create any first, second, or third force.
Force is a relationship between two or more particles.
The forces known are two nuclear forces, the electro-magnetic force, and gravity.
That is our best guess of the way things work for now.
Your statement :"When the wave is in the particle and the particle in the wave what does it create??
Does that make a third force?". I am not sure what you mean by this. -
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Re: Particle and wave
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 1:39 PMAlso useful to point out that particles don't go traveling through space like waves on water. The "wave function" is a mathematical model, not a physical picture
I can't figure out the meaning of the question either :)
Maybe this helps: When measured a certain way, light behaves like a particle. When measured a different way, light behaves like a wave. These measurements are complementary, not contradictory - it is incorrect to say "light is a particle", "light is a wave", and "light is both a particle and a wave". Light is just light
So says my physics prof anyway (hopefully her PhD won't have to be revoked by anyone here for proving her wrong!) :)
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Re: Particle and wave
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 2:25 PMHere's a more visualized version related to particle-wave conundrum, Wendy.
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Particle and wave
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 10:40 PMThank you all so much, the question came about due to our meditation teacher, i know very little on physics as you many have gathered. :)
What we are working on is stilling the being, ( like being in meditation state while living our normal lives)
Not having emotional reactions to things and getting into head stuff ect.
She made the comment that the stillness within the movement is like the partical and the wave, when one is in the other, what does it create.
What i see happening in life with this question in mind, is when there is no reaction from shit going down in life, no fear, wants, anger, retaliation, something else happens, it is like .....the right words are said or right action taken, life flows more gently and freely.
Hard to explain, here is a story that may help. Our house was hit by lightening, direct hit in 97 the noise and light were astounding, but found i was standing there in such peace, no mind flapping or fear. Time seemed to slow down (that is the only way i can explain it ) i stood watching three massive balls of yellow orange float around the room, the only thing in my mind was a deep sense of awe! now when the electrician and phone company came to rewire the whole house they could not believe it, said the house should have imploded with the energy that was strong enough to cook the wiring. Had similar experience in car accident to.
Dont know if this helps :) lolo we are particles to right? So if by stilling our mind to a certain point and not reacting just acting, does that not slow the spin of our particals??
it is like the Indian holy men, they can drink poison and it doesnt have an effect.\
Thanks again, and will watch the video, xxxxxxxxxx -
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Re: Particle and wave
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 9:07 AMether waves, physical distortions of the physical plane to alternative potential configurations... are not the same as time-dependent changes in an electromagnetic vector field.
waves (usually simple harmonic motion, or some sophisticated perturbation of that kind of soliton) are typically considered as results of a force that depends on displacement from a resting state. waves in the surface of a wine glass, for example, that only exist when there is energy traveling in the medium.
photons are waves as vector field potentials that travel across open space at the speed of light. for example, a railroad crossing signal does not immediately appear the same to all vehicles waiting for the train. there is no stress and no strain in an elastic, and alternatively a propagation of available energy and information.
two conductor lines (in electronics) involve coefficients of capacitance and self-inductance, as functions of geometry resulting in constants described in dielectric and inductance per unit length. (most familiar as either 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable) in that model, the orthagonal components of energy sharing between dimensions are based on electrical length and the speed of light in a dielectric.
wave equations in differential form can apply to either mechanical waves, or changes in vector field potential...
and hsould not be confused, you could lose a sweet grant
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Re: Particle and wave
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 1:50 PMgreat vid serge... it got me thinking... why cant the electron be creating a wave not becoming one, and that the act of measuring may be affecting that wave formation. Still has me thinking that the photon is neither wave or particle, its something else we havent figured out yet, or are not yet evolved enough to understand. -
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Re: Particle and wave
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 6:42 PM_both_ is more appropriate than "neither"
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Re: Particle and wave
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 9:19 AMYes, indeed. It makes one think.
We'll get there.
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Re: Particle and wave
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 9:32 AMI was thinking that 'vibration' is the label which represents the activity that both waves and particles 'partake' in.
*ducks*
